Prisoner Abuse
The terrorists or suspected terrorists, maybe involved in 9-11, were taken to Abu Grab, a terrible prison. There they were sexually and physically aboused by guards. The guards went unpunished Was it right? What should the punishemt have been?
york8 said,
October 24, 2006 at 9:39 am
I think that the guards should get 40 to life in jail. No bail. Thats one of the worst things to do to a human being, even a suspected and flasly jailed maybe terrorist. I dont want to go into details but here are some of the examples of abuse:
-Forced a be naked and give sexual pleasure to guards
-forced to wear a hood and be beaten
-Made to be naked and hooded and beg like animals
-Persome sexual acts at gunpoint.
America the land of the free indeed.
~Marlowe
Emma said,
October 24, 2006 at 9:39 am
Why wasn’t there punishment for these guards?
Was it because they’re guards for an American prisno ad they were just being patriotic Heh. Think about it.
We won’t punish our treasured Americans for doing terrible things to people from other countries that have done terrible things to us. How DARE we think that we have power over so many? It’s sad.
The punishment?
Death.
No one should be able to live with themselves after doing something like that.
york8 said,
October 24, 2006 at 9:42 am
YES! I totally agree.
~Marlowe
york8 said,
October 24, 2006 at 9:51 am
Totally agree Marlowe and Emma. These guards should get fined–yeah they are prisoners of war but no they shouldn’t get treated differnently. Andrew
york8 said,
October 24, 2006 at 9:52 am
Fined, jailed, death, the guards deserve it all.
~Marlowe
Barb said,
October 24, 2006 at 2:13 pm
Woo hoo Emma! I totally agree. We as a country do horrible things, that completley contradict themselves. It’s like, ok, we’ll let you torture THESE prisoners as long as it isn’t THESE OTHER people. It’s sick. It’s as if it should depend on who does what!
John said,
October 24, 2006 at 2:17 pm
But the thing is they abuse our prisoners but if we do it back it’s OH MY GOD WE HURT A PRISONER.
Elizabeth said,
October 24, 2006 at 2:50 pm
Johns right we get video tapes all the time with them cutting our soldiers heads off. And then oh-no we played music to loud at night and they couldn’t sleep. The poor things…
Fazal said,
October 25, 2006 at 9:14 am
I think that people who were physically and sexually abused showed be fined for a certain price! Think about it, people are brought to jail, to make them feel bad for what they did. So why do guards have to come in and abuse them and the U.S government not even doing anything about this?
york8 said,
October 25, 2006 at 10:13 am
I agree, Marlowe! Prisoner abuse is cruel and unusual, therefore it is a horrible crime! And Emma, I thought you were against the death penalty. (I agree with you, though.)
-Tristan
Sheldon said,
October 25, 2006 at 10:17 am
I feel the same way!
Myles said,
October 25, 2006 at 10:43 am
Well, of course the guards weren’t punished! We’re talking terrorists here!
Marlowe said,
October 25, 2006 at 11:43 am
Potenatial terrorists. And fellow human beings. How would you like it if someone abused you and got away with it.
John said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:00 pm
Marlowe they tourture all of our prisoners so when we do it why is it soo wrong???
Elizabeth said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:04 pm
Also does 9/11 ring a bell to any of you people??
Marlowe said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:08 pm
Its all was wrong! Whether we do it or they do its all was wrong! Its a terrible thing to bo to fellow humans!
John said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:10 pm
Tell that to the terriost please.
John said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:13 pm
so beheading isn’t wrong?? What our POWs in germany,vietnam,korea,somalia
MiiSz. ViCKii said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:18 pm
H0nestLy it doesnt even phase me. i don’t have any sympathy for people like that. They deserved it .
york8 said,
October 25, 2006 at 1:01 pm
I agree, Marlowe. It’s a terrible crime when we do it, and it’s just as terrible when they do it.
-Tristan
Sheldon said,
October 25, 2006 at 1:08 pm
Good point!
Elizabeth said,
October 25, 2006 at 3:19 pm
Marlowe said in the capitol punishment area:
The death penalty is totally inhumane. Its something savages or crazed animals would do. Supposedly, we are the most intelligent and advanced race, so why are we killing our own?
-Marlowe
Marlowe says about peisoner abuse:
Fined, jailed, death, the guards deserve it all.
~Marlowe
me: you completely contradicted yourself…
Elizabeth said,
October 25, 2006 at 3:21 pm
ooops prisoner not peiosoner
Sheldon said,
October 25, 2006 at 7:06 pm
With all do respect Tristan, do you always agree with Marlowe?
I mean is that really the way you feel?
Sheldon said,
October 25, 2006 at 7:07 pm
Sorry if I offended you in any way.
Sheldon said,
October 26, 2006 at 7:44 am
due respect
york8 said,
October 26, 2006 at 8:59 am
No, Sheldon. We don’t always agree. Look at capital punishment for an example.
-Tristan
Dani said,
October 26, 2006 at 9:15 am
well its like we dont think as terrorists from different countries as human beings even thought they are we treat then as animals, even thought animals shouldnt even be treated like that. it disgusting how we talk about freedom and respect and lalalalala and thne we go andd do these horrible things.. what have we become?
Willie said,
October 26, 2006 at 10:30 am
Just because they are terrorists doesn’t mean they can be sexually harassed by guards. The law doesn’t say: if they are terrorists and they go to jail they can be sexually harassed. Terrorists have become an extreme enemy only since 9-11. Before then we would have thought it was wrong. It would be wrong if you molested a murderer. It would be wrong if you molested a thief. It’s uncalled for, and terrorists in jail may have little rights, but they still have the right to NOT be sexually harassed, everyone does.
Lily said,
October 26, 2006 at 10:34 am
Will i totaly agree with you because your right that even if someone did something bad then they shouldn not be allowed to be sexually harassed for it. I mean no one should be allowed to have that happen to them.
Lily said,
October 26, 2006 at 10:35 am
*shouldnt
Dani said,
October 26, 2006 at 10:36 am
will couldnt the guards get in trouble for sexualy harrasing a prisoner?
Casey said,
October 26, 2006 at 10:37 am
I agree that these guards should be fined. I dont think we should just say ohh its no big deal they do it too. They can say the same thing, well the U.S. does it so can we. This would just be an endless cycle. I say we be the “bigger man” and stop abusing prisoners there is absolutly no need of it if someone can give a good reason why this is necessary, besides they abuse our prisoners too, then I will gladly except it. Continuing prison abuse will do us no good, while stopping it will make other people notice we as a country recognize when we go somthing wrong and change it.
I don’t know about anyone else but i don’t see how you can read some of the examples Marlowe gave and not cringe.
Willie said,
October 26, 2006 at 10:39 am
Yes they could that is just as illegal as any other molester, Dani. Just because they are prison guards and just because they are terrorists doesn’t make them any more justified than a regular child molester
Max said,
October 26, 2006 at 11:29 am
I think that anybody who molests people should be thrown in jail for their crime. So what, a guard thinks he can do anything he wants and get away with it. No they should be thrown in jail with all the other molesters.
Sheldon said,
October 26, 2006 at 11:32 am
Very good point!
york8 said,
October 26, 2006 at 12:16 pm
Perfect punishment, Max!
-Tristan
Barb said,
October 29, 2006 at 5:24 pm
Elizabeth said,
October 24, 2006 at 2:50 pm
Johns right we get video tapes all the time with them cutting our soldiers heads off. And then oh-no we played music to loud at night and they couldn’t sleep. The poor things…
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The example Elizabeth put there worries me. I’m guessing she was kidding….we aren’t even 100% sure that each person there was a terrorist, and remember the lecture, “don’t stoop to their level?” Also, I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t want rapists and abusers to be in our military.
Tyler K said,
October 30, 2006 at 10:28 am
I fully agree Barb, I wouldn’t want that either. I think that we shouldn’t have our gaurds there, just abuseing the prisoners even if they gulty or not… sometimes that happens, a person who’s innocent, gets life and the gulty one gets to walk. Even if they are just a criminal, they still have equal rights.; don’t you think so? I believe that every person should have equal rights, and just because they are a criminal doesn’t mean that anybody should treat them like dirt.!!
Andrew said,
October 30, 2006 at 3:12 pm
They treat us like dirt no one understands that they touture our people. The U.S. didn’t these few guards did. I do think it wrong but it shouldn’t be so angry with the U.S. when you here this on the news”Another U.S. soldier has been beheaded” Then when you hear ” A U.S. soldier has been cought kicking a prisoner in the chest” you shouldn’t be like oy my god I can’t believe he did that.
John said,
October 30, 2006 at 3:14 pm
sorry that was my comment not Andrews sorry Andrew my computer keeps putting in names of people this was an accident! okey
Emma said,
November 1, 2006 at 10:43 am
John, true that it was not the whole U.S. that abused the prisoners. Yet who choses the people to be in the U.S. army? Of course there will always be a few people who are chosen for the army that turn out sadistic, but why do we not arrest these people, hmm?
pete says said,
November 2, 2006 at 9:50 am
Prisoner abuse isn’t right. The person has allready been sent to jail, so you don’t need to abuse him once he is there. Not even a prisoner deseves to be abused that much, it is just not right.
Elizabeth said,
November 9, 2006 at 11:46 am
Emma nobody choses who is going to be in the army it is actually a voluntary thing. Its not like the Government just say “you HAVE to join the army”
patrick said,
November 9, 2006 at 11:55 am
If the prisoner is torchered on US soil than I think the gaurds should be tried but if its in another country our laws dont really aply there so we cant do anything about it
..::$NiMO$::.. said,
November 14, 2006 at 9:23 pm
Uh… patrick? It is still prisoner Abuse even though it’s in another country. I;ts not right that American Soldiers are torturing these prisoners when just being in prison is enough. For example how about if these lets just say… Russian prison gaurds were torturing American prisoners…. And they got away with it… that’s the exact same thing that is happening in Abu Grab Prison. It doesn’t matter where it is taking place in…. it’s still WRONG and it still should be STOPPED!
**Well thats just my point of view
PeAcE***
dani said,
November 15, 2006 at 10:47 am
ok well parick is sorta right about the whole different country thing
who are we to put our selfs where we arent conserned?
and about the whole molesting thing i think that people think, and it is worse for a child to get molested and not an adult….
Sheldon said,
November 15, 2006 at 11:45 am
Good Point D.E.F.
..::$NiMO$::.. said,
November 15, 2006 at 9:16 pm
no im saying if AMERICAN GAURDS are torturing people than we should be involved….. it does concern us if AMERICAN gaurds are doing IT!!! but on the other side if it has nothing to do with AMERICAN gaurds we shouldn’t get concerned!!!
PeAcE!!
dani said,
November 16, 2006 at 11:39 am
ummm nimo?
spell check and i that if american guards are doing it then yes we are already conserned
..::$NiMO$::. said,
November 16, 2006 at 1:28 pm
No, i mean we should stop it from happening if the american gaurds are doing it… they should know the rules after all they are from the U.S. But if gaurds from diffrent countries are torturing prisons from their country than it doesn’t concern us and we shouldn’t be involved…. thats what i was trying to say last time…
**PeAcE
♥
♥..::$NiMO$::..♥ said,
November 16, 2006 at 1:30 pm
do u get what im trying to say now dani??
DanD said,
November 16, 2006 at 1:40 pm
prisoner abuse is wrong and cruel. enough said.
york8 said,
November 16, 2006 at 1:46 pm
Yeah.
~Marlowe
Barb said,
November 20, 2006 at 7:22 pm
if there was enough said, than this blog would be useless
Here’s a newish topic….what is considered abuse and what isn’t ?
Barb said,
November 27, 2006 at 12:01 pm
I mean, obviously, people disagree. After all, there’s a difference from being “kicked in the chest” and other things, right?
york8 said,
November 27, 2006 at 12:05 pm
Right sexual abouse and physical abuse is different from being shoved or something, but its still abuse.
~Marlowe
Barb said,
November 27, 2006 at 12:10 pm
So when do you get the courts involved?
dani said,
November 27, 2006 at 12:14 pm
what i think is so sad when somebody is getting beaten and is defenseless
that my dear is cruel
Sheldon said,
December 2, 2006 at 5:18 pm
That is also fighting without honnor, in some casses.
york8 said,
December 7, 2006 at 11:52 am
Sheldon, honor doesn’t mean anything these days. You fight with any trick in the book and then some. But I agree. You can’t do that at all. Those soldier should be court-mashelled, expelled from the army and imprisoned for life.
~Marlowe
DanD said,
December 12, 2006 at 10:47 am
yeah. all soldiers who abuse prisoners should be court mashelled!
york8 said,
December 12, 2006 at 10:48 am
Took the words right outta my mouth.
~Marlowe