Gay rights
Should homosexuals have the same rights as heterosexuals (straight people)?
How do ideas about freedom change over time? How do some freedoms get in the way of other freedoms?
Should homosexuals have the same rights as heterosexuals (straight people)?
Max said,
October 17, 2006 at 12:27 pm
Josh Says:
April 7th, 2006 at 7:25 am
Emmy, fine homosexuals can’t help how they feel, but if that is true then neither can a child rapist right? They can’t help that they have sexual feelings for little children right?
My opinion:
I completely disagree on what josh is saying. Child rapists and homosexuals are completely different. Yes they can’t help that they have feelings for children or other people of the same gender but than again neither can people who have feelings for people of the opposite gender. There is nothing wrong with two people being in love, their gender doesn’t matter. Also rape is a crime being gay isn’t.
Dani said,
October 17, 2006 at 12:31 pm
i think that homosexuality is perfectly fine. love is love, no matter what. it hurts me that it is banned i really think that homosexuals are no different from “straight” people are,
york8 said,
October 17, 2006 at 12:31 pm
Isaac
i think that everyone in the world should have the same rights no matter what their sexual orientation
Dani said,
October 17, 2006 at 12:32 pm
right on isaac.
york8 said,
October 17, 2006 at 12:33 pm
Dani you are right.
I don’t agree with it but the people shouldn’t be discriminating against people.
So yeah
Andrew
york8 said,
October 17, 2006 at 12:41 pm
People of the homosexual orienation have every right to get married.
-Marlowe
Dani said,
October 17, 2006 at 1:55 pm
does anyone here disagree with this?
because nobody that dissagrees is putting it up
please
Emma said,
October 17, 2006 at 2:02 pm
Gay marrige should be legalized, because the president and the rest of America’s government shouldn’t have the right to use their personal beliefs to stop people from doing things they don’t agree with.
Is this country not democracy???
Devastating, indeed.
Dani said,
October 17, 2006 at 2:12 pm
see you know what i hate?
when people say “oh im all for gay rights”
then they say “bob your being gay.”
that is so horrible
or when they say “ewww so and so is a lesbian,gay or bi?”
how is it “eww”
how is it wrong to love
or even to have feelings of some sort of love for someone of the same sex
alex said,
October 18, 2006 at 8:36 am
yes they should have the same rights
Thao said,
October 18, 2006 at 9:10 am
I agree with Dani
Andrew said,
October 18, 2006 at 9:48 am
Well I was watching a preview for Top Chef 2 and Carlos (one of the chef’s) was gay. Hey said something that is very true.
“I shouldn’t be treated differently, we all chop and cut the same way, it’s just what goes on in the bedroom that’s different.”
SO what im trying to say is that just because some one is homosexual doesn’t meant they should be treated differently.
pete said,
October 18, 2006 at 9:50 am
To me it doesn’t matter whether you are gay, straight, or bisexual because it doesn’t change what kind of person you really are. If you are gay and you don’t like a person because of what they do or what their personality is, that is completely different from not liking someone because of what there sexual prefrence is. A gay or bi. or should have the same rights as a streight person.
Dani said,
October 18, 2006 at 9:52 am
we are all just repeating our selfs
york8 said,
October 18, 2006 at 9:55 am
Yeah. Well, it’s good that a lot of people support gay rights.
-Tristan
Matt said,
October 18, 2006 at 9:56 am
What is wrong with gay marriage? I believe it is perfectly okay, for many of the reasons everyone has already stated. Also, discriminating someone because of their sexual orientation is comepletely uncalled for. Why would anyone care in the first place? It is that person’s decision, and no one else should be involved.
Dani said,
October 18, 2006 at 9:58 am
yeah but no offence its kindda boring sense we are all just saying yeah yeah over and over sooo 8/
york8 said,
October 18, 2006 at 1:02 pm
Well here is somehting new to think about.
If Bush and Chenay are banning homosexuals from getting married right?
But channey’s daughter is a lesbian. How can they not support it.
Andrew
luke b said,
October 19, 2006 at 10:45 am
Andrew, they can’t support it because if they do bush won’t be able to handel all the press. Now I don’t like bush,I think the way he is handeling things is wrong, same with channey (gore should have been president)
Vicki said,
October 19, 2006 at 10:46 am
I have so many gay friends. I dont have anything against gay people at all..God made us how he wanted us to be.
Graehme said,
October 19, 2006 at 10:48 am
I honestly don”t see what the big problem is with gay marriage. I mean, It doesn’t really affect anyone except gay people, so why can’t they get married? They’re saying they want to marry you, so what’s your problem? I’ve personally never had a problem with gay people, I don’t concern myself with other people’s personal lives, I have my own.
Billy said,
October 19, 2006 at 10:49 am
Yes I really do agree with dani when she said “how is it wrong to love” because if the people around you are gay or your neighbors and you find it gross to love someone of the same sex maybe you should just move to a another city or state
Dani said,
October 19, 2006 at 11:49 am
true about bush though.
you see, were judging people 3way to much in these days a nd i hate to but it just happens
i tihnk were just born with it
Aaron said,
October 19, 2006 at 12:29 pm
I think that homosexuals should beable to get married, they shouldnt be treated any different then anybody elts. but i also think it doesnt really matter becauce i dont think that marrige matters.
Maria said,
October 19, 2006 at 1:22 pm
I think gay people should have the same right as straight people!!
york8 said,
October 19, 2006 at 1:23 pm
Agreed!
~Marlowe
Barb said,
October 19, 2006 at 2:11 pm
i dont see why the government has to be so nosy anyways. Love is love, no matter what sexual orientation you are. Having mostly straight white men decide all of these controversial issues makes no sense. I don’t agree with the Christians that are against it. I mean, those people are takeing one small part of the Bible, and getting crazy about it. Christianity is supposed to be the religion of love and understanding so as Christians, we should start acting loving and understanding about it. (I said WE only because I personally am, I wasn’t implying anything)
Franciska said,
October 19, 2006 at 2:17 pm
i agree with DANI
Willie said,
October 19, 2006 at 2:19 pm
What is the definition of love. Does it say a man has to love a woman? I don’t think it does. Love is the connection to someone else no matter who it is. Sex does not play a role in love, so homosexuality has nothing to do with love nor should it with marraige. What is marraige. A bond between to lovers who want to spend the rest of their lives together. Nothing about two guys or girls getting married. Love is love, marraige is marraige, if a guy loves a guy or a girl loves a girl they should be able to get married, i have no clue why homosexuality is stopping couples from getting married.
Dani said,
October 19, 2006 at 2:25 pm
gah. this is such a boring one….. sigh
Elizabeth said,
October 19, 2006 at 4:29 pm
I think that gay marriages should be legal. If you love someone then you do there is nothing you can do about it.
P.S. the road to marriage is not always straight.
Barb said,
October 20, 2006 at 8:25 am
ha! sweet quote, elizabeth! Is there anyone with the differing opinion that want to speak up?
Dani said,
October 20, 2006 at 9:53 am
no i dont thnk so but i love to quote!
Drosh McWholie said,
October 21, 2006 at 2:39 pm
I DONT agree with anyone HERE AT ALL. I don’t hate gays but i don’t they should get married. I think Bisexual IS THE DUMBEST THING EVER INVENTED!!!! I think bi people are to stupid to decide wheather they gay or not soooo I think there DUMB=)
york8 said,
October 23, 2006 at 9:02 am
Finally, a controversy! Okay, Drosh, first of all, WHY do you think so? I can’t argue (although I disagree) with your opinion until I know the thinking (or lack of it) behind it.
-Tristan
Franciska said,
October 23, 2006 at 10:14 am
I AGREE WITH MARIA yup
Marlowe said,
October 23, 2006 at 12:13 pm
Listen ‘Drosh’, How would you like it if some people you dont know controlled your life and deicded what you can do. Think about it, you have no right5s and everything about you is done by facists.
Elizabeth said,
October 23, 2006 at 1:31 pm
Drosh, why do you think they should not get married?
Emma said,
October 23, 2006 at 1:33 pm
It’s good to see someone with a different oppinion. Though it seems to be an ignorant one, because you’re not backing it up at all “Drosh.” How about I barge into your life and tell you you’re not allowed to fall in love with who you want, and that your stupid for thinking you can? Love is not something any one should be able to control, and if any one is dumb, it’s you.
york8 said,
October 23, 2006 at 1:54 pm
Nice, good point Emma
Nimo said,
October 24, 2006 at 9:54 am
I don’t think that Gay Rights is a good idea… but i also believe that people should be able to have it. I don’t know… i just don’t think it is right. i believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman.. not a man and a man or a woman and a woman. I believe we were made to be marrying the opposite sex. Because if we were made to marrry the same sex then you would be able to have a baby with the same sex.
Barb said,
October 24, 2006 at 10:17 am
Drosh, since when was being bisexual invented? If it was something created by someone, then that would be a different story. Like Emma said, love can’t be controlled, and it’s no one’s creation, you don’t decide to fall in love.
Nimo, I’m not sure if I’m clear on what you’re saying. You agree with Gay Rights, and then you don’t. I’m just not sure what your point is. Care to elaborate?
york8 said,
October 24, 2006 at 10:34 am
Wow. That was awsome. Actully I think the root of bisexuality or gay love came from one of two sources:
1. Feudal Japan: Bushido, the Way of the Warrior was the beinging of homosexuality in Japan, maybe the world. It premoted being brothers, and then devolped into male love. Some men had wives thus began bisexuality.
2. Ancient Greece/Rome: At parties it was concivable to make love with both genders. Many famous Romans/Grecians/Macedonians were gay. Alexander the Great was a homosexual and had 2 gay lovers and a wife.
~Marlowe
Dani said,
October 24, 2006 at 10:40 am
“drosh”
i really do not agree with you
how is being gay dumb
John said,
October 24, 2006 at 10:42 am
Nobady cares about the roots. We all only care about giving marrige, not about the roots. Equal rights for ALL
Emma said,
October 24, 2006 at 10:45 am
I think the roots are cute, haha. I personally think that all humans are bisexual, but sociaty and such has suppressed us so much to believe that it is wrong to be so.
Hmm.
york8 said,
October 24, 2006 at 10:46 am
Ummm…Ok I was just passing some information, John. Theres no reason to get mad. If you read earlier I was quite outspoken about how homosexuals should be able to get married and have equal rights.
~Marlowe
John said,
October 24, 2006 at 11:29 am
Marlowe how was that comment angry I was just saying that this blog is about gay rights not the roots.
Emma said,
October 24, 2006 at 12:45 pm
Hey. This blog is for debating, guys, not personal fights.
get over yourselves, hmmm?
Dani said,
October 24, 2006 at 1:00 pm
emma what you saisd earlier, about the whole bisexual thing, remember at my house when all of us were talking about it nad we all came up wityh some really good points?
ok well i think that we are all bisexual but we just lean to one side more than the other
Ally Doaln said,
October 24, 2006 at 3:20 pm
Hi everyone! In case some of you don’t know me, I was an 8th grader at King last year. This blog is really awsome, you all have some great opinions. Most of you are commenting on the legal aspect, what about the religious aspect? Why do you think that the Bible considers homosexuality to be so wrong? Do you believe that the people who disagree with homosexuality JUST based on the Bible have enough reason to be against it? Do you believe that these religious people should put aside their religious opinions in order to have a more open mind about homosexuality?
Just want to hear what you guys think!
Ally Dolan said,
October 24, 2006 at 3:21 pm
Sorry guys, I spelled my last name wrong on my previous post. Can you say DUH!?!
Sheldon said,
October 24, 2006 at 8:34 pm
I think that NOBODY should be treated the way that gay people are treated especially when it comes to gay rights.
Sheldon said,
October 24, 2006 at 8:41 pm
I think this because that gay people are treated with soooooo much disrespect because of who they are in two or more ways:
1.They like someone of the same sex.
2.That they dont have the right to get married anymore…I dont think…
And before I say anything more on this subject I WANT TO KNOW WHY PEOPLE ARE SO MEAN TO THEM BECAUSE OF THESE REASONS!!!
Elizabeth said,
October 24, 2006 at 8:46 pm
Sheldon please explain what you are saying…
Elizabeth said,
October 24, 2006 at 8:46 pm
nevermind
Sheldon said,
October 24, 2006 at 8:51 pm
Why nevermind?
Elizabeth said,
October 24, 2006 at 9:07 pm
because you just explained
Travis said,
October 25, 2006 at 8:43 am
I absoluly agree with Marlowe on this one people!
Sheldon said,
October 25, 2006 at 8:44 am
OH!
york8 said,
October 25, 2006 at 8:46 am
Thanks, Travis.
~Marlowe
Heather said,
October 25, 2006 at 8:48 am
I agree with all of you.. people that are gay should have the same rights as everyone else. I also agree all the way with Pete. If you are gay or bi or straight it does not change the person that you are! Not one little bit. You are who you are and your like that because thats the way you where supposed to be! =]
nick said,
October 25, 2006 at 8:49 am
i think gays should have the same rights as every one else because they are people to.
Travis said,
October 25, 2006 at 9:03 am
So, so true nick!
Travis said,
October 25, 2006 at 9:04 am
Your welcome Marlowe!
Dani said,
October 25, 2006 at 9:53 am
ok well if you are gay and christian or catholic or something i guess you can do this confessional like thing and you can confess your “sin”
i was watching it oprah or dr phil this man was gay, but he ignored his feelings and he did all this stuff to make it so he wasnt and then dr. phil asked him if he still had feelinds for men and he said yes sooo…….
Thao said,
October 25, 2006 at 10:05 am
I agree with nick they just people. They have the right to love someone.
Thao said,
October 25, 2006 at 10:06 am
I agree with nick.
Travis said,
October 25, 2006 at 10:06 am
Deep very deep!!
Dani said,
October 25, 2006 at 10:09 am
yes but like ally said what about the religuos aspects?
i still cant spell!!
gah.
Travis said,
October 25, 2006 at 11:48 am
*slap*
Marlowe said,
October 25, 2006 at 11:52 am
Dont you dare slap a lady! You cur!
Back to gay rights. I have 2 gay god fathers, and my favorite on, John, can t get married, hes the nicest guy ever, hes like family, and he almost died. He barely made it though a lung sickness caused by smoking. He survived and it family-less. I would fight for anything that would make him happy.
Travis said,
October 25, 2006 at 11:52 am
It was joking get off my back!!!!
I know about your god fathers dude!!
Marlowe said,
October 25, 2006 at 11:53 am
Umm ok there travis…
Shyla said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:10 pm
I don`t mind. I don`t care if there gay or not. I don`t mind. Not like i`m going to stop liking them because of there sexuality. & I would really love it if people would like them for who they are & not because of there sexuality.
Sheldon said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:14 pm
Shyla, sorry but I personaly think you are beinh a hypocrit!
MiiSz. ViCKii said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:15 pm
You are what you are and nothing or noone can ever come between it ;; Don’t be ashamed of who you are. You’ll look around and see that not only is everyone around you changing but you are too..
Tyler K said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:22 pm
Well Shyla, I think you are being a hypocrit, because in school and in your last comment, you said Quote, ” I don’t care if they are gay or not.” And by what I hear in school, you seem to care by picking on him. You know who I’m talking about to. You can argue all you want, but it’s true.
Dani said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:51 pm
ok but is shyla being a HYPOCRITE because of what she is saying, in or outside of the blog??
york8 said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:58 pm
I agree, Marlowe! I hope your godfather is able to marry!
-Tristan
Sheldon said,
October 25, 2006 at 1:10 pm
I agree also, but, please elaborate more on why you agree.
Sheldon said,
October 25, 2006 at 5:10 pm
And Dani, Yes she is!
Sheldon said,
October 25, 2006 at 5:16 pm
Good point on what you said before Marlowe, about the origin of homesexuality. AWESOME!!!
Sheldon said,
October 25, 2006 at 5:20 pm
I want to know where this “STRAIGHT” thing started!
Sheldon said,
October 25, 2006 at 5:25 pm
Same thing for “CROOKED”!
Sheldon said,
October 25, 2006 at 6:58 pm
And Travis, are you stalking Marlowe or someting?
Dani said,
October 26, 2006 at 8:47 am
ok nobody is answering my question is she /shyla/ being a hypocrite for what she said on the blog, or in school!!
gah!
Barb said,
October 26, 2006 at 10:28 am
I think that she might be a hypocrite, but the blog is an inappropriate place to put it. Personally, if you can’t tell them face to face what you feel, than you can’t feel to strongly about it.
If Tyler could elaborate a little on what he was talking about it would help, because I personally feel out of the loop here with what went on, and everyone reads the blog.
Dani said,
October 26, 2006 at 10:31 am
ok barb but idk what you guys mean by her being a hypocrite …..
ok
well if you are gay and christian or catholic or something i guess you can do this confessional like thing and you can confess your “sin”
i was watching it oprah or dr phil this man was gay, but he ignored his feelings and he did all this stuff to make it so he wasnt and then dr. phil asked him if he still had feelinds for men and he said yes sooo…….
lets talk about religion in this
Dani said,
October 26, 2006 at 10:32 am
ok barb but idk what you guys mean by her being a hypocrite …..
ok
well if you are gay and christian or catholic or something i guess you can do this confessional like thing and you can confess your “sin”
i was watching it oprah or dr phil this man was gay, but he ignored his feelings and he did all this stuff to make it so he wasnt and then dr. phil asked him if he still had feelinds for men and he said yes sooo…….
lets talk about religion in this sma ehere barb about the loop
Dani said,
October 26, 2006 at 10:33 am
ok barb but idk what you guys mean by her being a hypocrite …..
ok
well if you are gay and christian or catholic or something i guess you can do this confessional like thing and you can confess your “sin”
i was watching it oprah or dr phil this man was gay, but he ignored his feelings and he did all this stuff to make it so he wasnt and then dr. phil asked him if he still had feelinds for men and he said yes sooo…….
lets talk about religion in this same here barb about the loop
Barb said,
October 26, 2006 at 10:40 am
yeah
I think that if you’re Christian and you get all crazy about gay people then that’s an oxymoron, because it’s all about tolerance.
It’d be great if someone from another religion would elaborate on how being gay would be, in that particular faith.
Sheldon said,
October 26, 2006 at 10:45 am
DANI, I SAID, YES SHE IS!!!
Barb said,
October 26, 2006 at 11:13 am
STILL, we are out of the loop on what you’re talking about. Could someone explain the whole story or something…without names?
Sheldon said,
October 26, 2006 at 11:23 am
Someone said that someone was gay and so I called that person a hypocrit because they said that they don’t care when they really do care because thet keep making fun of somebody!
THEO said,
October 26, 2006 at 11:24 am
There should be laws to protect gay rights. It does not seem right that we create laws against people that love the same sex as they are. Gay people should have the same legal rights as strait people. I am for gay rights, but in my personal opinion it is against the laws of nature that men and women marry the same sex. But I do not feel that my personal beliefs should decide how other people live.
Emma said,
October 26, 2006 at 11:30 am
The thing with the Oprah and the religion:
Yes, homosexuality can’t be helped. It’s not as though you can chose weather you are or not. Some people do feel themselves that if they are gay then they are sinning. It’s a complicated system. Basically, some people who hate gays could be gay, and they’d hate them selves. Again, it’s not something they can determine. Some people love being gay, but a lot of people are suppressed and afraid, which is reasonable because sadly, in our society, gays are generally un excepted and discriminated against.
Blech. Society sucks.
york8 said,
October 26, 2006 at 12:27 pm
As far as I know, being gay is ok in Buddhism…
-Tristan
york8 said,
October 26, 2006 at 12:30 pm
And hinduism, I belive, and the Norse religon, and in the Greecian and Edyptian.
Barb said,
October 26, 2006 at 2:21 pm
Hmmmm, ok. So i think that what sheldon was saying was that a lot of time people are all talk. i don’t know about you guys, but it really ticks me off when people boast equality and then say that things are gay.
york8 said,
October 26, 2006 at 2:22 pm
YES! Agreed!
~Marlowe
Ally Dolan said,
October 26, 2006 at 3:47 pm
No one really anwered my question. You all seem very against people are discriminate against homosexuals. My question is, if their religion says that they are supposed to discriminate or look down upon gays, is it then okay? I mean, would you ask someone to disregard their religious beliefs in order to have an open mind like you?
Ally Dolan said,
October 26, 2006 at 3:47 pm
No one really anwered my question and I’m really curious. You all seem very against people are discriminate against homosexuals. My question is, if their religion says that they are supposed to discriminate or look down upon gays, is it then okay? I mean, would you ask someone to disregard their religious beliefs in order to have an open mind like you?
Ally Dolan said,
October 26, 2006 at 3:48 pm
No one really anwered my question and I’m really curious. You all seem very against people who discriminate against homosexuals. My question is, if a person’s religion says that they are supposed to discriminate or look down upon gays, is it then okay? I mean, would you ask someone to disregard their religious beliefs in order to have an open mind about like you?
Ally Dolan said,
October 26, 2006 at 3:50 pm
ahhh! sorry about the three almost identicle posts. my computer is being a loser
Ally Dolan said,
October 26, 2006 at 4:05 pm
Oh, one more comment!
Mr. Clifford,
My english class is the hardest thing on the planet. Ms. Pendleton’s class is tough. I wish you had warned me! Oh, by the way, what do you think about my amazing questions for your eighth graders? I have become so much more smarticle since I’ve gone to high school! I mean my comments and questions were never that great when you were my teacher. Just kidding, without you as my teacher last year I’d probably be failing english right now (oh man, too much sappiness for me to handle). But seriously eighth graders, try to do well at King, it will be to your advantage next year!
Sorry that I kind of wrote a novel,
Ally Dolan (amazing King alumni)
P.S. That whole “much more smarticle thing” was a joke, I did it on purpose, not sure if anyone got that, you’d have to know me to understand.
P.S.S. I also never used correct grammer until I entered high school. It’s kind of fun, I’m not going to lie. I LOVE GRAMMER! Wow, that was kind of weird….ok, it past. PEACE!
Ally Dolan said,
October 26, 2006 at 4:08 pm
Drats, I wrote “past” and I meant to write “passed” just thought I’d clarify that for everyone. I swear this is my last comment! Just please you guys, answer my question I really want o hear what you guys think!
Sheldon said,
October 26, 2006 at 5:12 pm
Thanks Barb!
Sheldon said,
October 26, 2006 at 5:17 pm
And Ally D.
I really don’t know if it is okay or not. But I personally feel that no matter what, you still should not be mean to gay people in any way! And I was going to respond earlier, but I thought Myles would say the same thing I would.
Elizabeth said,
October 26, 2006 at 5:53 pm
Ally, if it is a religion I think that it is okay, you can’t ask someone to put aside their religious belifes just because you do not like them to discriminate against gays.
york8 said,
October 27, 2006 at 11:09 am
Ally, you and I are the only grammar lovers here!
-Tristan
Dani said,
October 27, 2006 at 11:10 am
?
John said,
October 27, 2006 at 11:30 am
Tristan say something useful!
Dani said,
October 27, 2006 at 11:32 am
how nice john my dear
york8 said,
October 27, 2006 at 11:40 am
Okay, I will. I think it’s okay for anyone to think being gay is bad due to their religion, but I don’t think it’s okay for someone to try and ban gay rights. Namely, It’s okay to think as one wishes, but acting maliciously is different.
-Tristan
Caitlin said,
October 27, 2006 at 11:56 am
Tristan, for once we agree politically on something.(That’s a first!)
Ally, since no-one else is, I’ll answer your question. I don’t think people should be against gay rights just because the Bible is homophobic. The Bible also says ‘thou shall not suffer suffer a witch to live.’ Also, people cited the Bible to justify slavery. The Bible is about love, people, not hate!!!
Sheldon said,
October 27, 2006 at 12:30 pm
Caitlin, I already answered it!!!
Emma said,
October 27, 2006 at 1:30 pm
Though I am not against the Christian religion, I disagree. Religious rules such as those have started many wars and deaths. Perhaps we should start a new question though, because this is getting rather off topic.
Sheldon said,
October 27, 2006 at 4:42 pm
How?!
Nimo said,
October 27, 2006 at 5:26 pm
?????
Barb said,
October 27, 2006 at 7:44 pm
Well, though it is sort of off topic, it is a giant part of why gay rights is such an issue. PLUS, we’re saying the same stuff over and OVER again to that tedious point where people stop posting.
Sheldon said,
October 30, 2006 at 10:41 am
Has anyone seen the movie/play of RENT? If so, would the two gay people be a good example of the way Gay Rights should be?
Tyler K said,
October 30, 2006 at 10:45 am
Sheldon, do you mean sort of Broke Back Moutain??? or something???….
Tyler K said,
October 30, 2006 at 10:51 am
I forgot to add, broke back moutain is a great movie/, example for this topic.
york8 said,
October 30, 2006 at 11:18 am
I’ve never seen it. But, uh, we need some type of controversy to discuss. We can’t just sit here agreeing with each other. We’re just nodding our heads. Any suggestions as to stuff we can elaborate on?
-Tristan
Sheldon said,
October 30, 2006 at 12:18 pm
kind’a
Tyler K said,
October 30, 2006 at 1:21 pm
my bad tristan….
dani said,
October 30, 2006 at 1:42 pm
well we need some outside source like some people from windsor, umnmm somebody on team blog make him tell them about it !!
yay
gah well yeah idk so yeah
umm i like secret agent giraffes
Emma said,
October 30, 2006 at 2:27 pm
Hmm. Some questions for discussion:
Does any one believe that gays should be able to have the right of PDA (Public display of affection) while straight people do, or only straight people?
Does any one think being gay is O.K. but they shouldn’t be able to get married?
If you use the phrase “That’s so gay” or “You’re being gay,” what does that mean to you?
Erm. That’s all I got.
dani said,
October 30, 2006 at 2:33 pm
Ugh sometimes i still like every once in a really great while will still say that gay, its because of the pepole around me its a bad habit. and then yes they should be able to show pda, if “straight” people can then pda for all!
=]]
Seldon said,
October 30, 2006 at 6:20 pm
Sorry TristAn, but nobody aswered my question. Would the RENT play/movie be a great example of the way gay rights sould be?
Sheldon said,
October 30, 2006 at 6:23 pm
And also ? did this “Straight and Crooked” thing come from?!
I personally think it’s very stupid!
york8 said,
October 31, 2006 at 10:02 am
Okay, good idea, Emma! Now we have something to talk about! Personally, I think if one couple can show PDA, then another can, regardless of gender. And about the windsor thing, I’ll have Cee-bass (a friend in windsor) ask his friends to post, and maybe he will, too.(Although he’ll agree with us, too.)
-Tristan
JEnni said,
October 31, 2006 at 3:04 pm
if some one want to be with the same sex then thay should be able to be with the same sex without gitting made fun of when they walk down the sterrt with there partner or if they are a cross dresser then they shouldn’t be made fun of.
dani said,
October 31, 2006 at 3:11 pm
wow, true.
lol
gah
Emma said,
November 1, 2006 at 10:51 am
Okay, so, kiddies, will you ever try and make a difference to change the gay marriage laws, to stop prisoner abuse, etc.? That is what really matters. I hope I will see you all on the news or hear about you changing the world, yet it never seems to turn out that way. If your beliefs are strong, are you going to fight for them? Or will you just sit back and watch like everyone else?
That is the question.
Barb said,
November 1, 2006 at 12:33 pm
Sheldon, i think that RENT is a great example on how even if you are gay or lesbian or bisexual or straight, we are still all humans.
york8 said,
November 1, 2006 at 12:57 pm
*Applaudes*
~MArlowe
patrick said,
November 3, 2006 at 12:15 pm
I think that if your in love with someone no mater what sex you should be able to mary him/her
york8 said,
November 3, 2006 at 12:16 pm
Yes, very nicely said, Patrick.
~MArlowe
lucky said,
November 3, 2006 at 1:28 pm
i think it really doesn’t matter as long as you love your partner. so yes homosexuals should have the same right as heterosexuals!
Jordan said,
November 6, 2006 at 2:26 pm
I think that everyone deserves the same rights. If you are of another race, color, or background you get equal rights. Why should homosexuality be any different. If you love somebody of the same sex your just as human as anyone else
Faz said,
November 6, 2006 at 2:28 pm
Whats wrong with Gay marriage? I thinks it’s okay for people to be gay, bi, or straight, for the many reasons have been already stated. Why would someone want to make fun of their sexual orientation? Thats totally WRONG! Why should people care in the first place? It’s the persons decisions and people shouldnt get involved in this matter.
Kyle said,
November 6, 2006 at 2:30 pm
I agree with Jordan. Remember the racist acts a while ago? Hitler and the Nazis? Well this is sort of the same idea. Except with gays.
dani said,
November 6, 2006 at 2:41 pm
well it sucks that the whole world cant be like us……
but hne if everyone was for gay rihgts the we wouldnt be talking about it rihgt now sooooo……..
Barb said,
November 6, 2006 at 5:11 pm
true, dani. Also remember that Hitler shot and put homosexuals in the concentration camps as well…it’s not like they were treated equally before we were born…
dani said,
November 7, 2006 at 12:53 pm
ok well i think thta somebody reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally needs to tell windsor to comment on this!!!
grrrr
gah
DanD said,
November 16, 2006 at 2:21 pm
i think that this topic has gone flat.
Mary Burgess said,
November 16, 2006 at 3:02 pm
GAY PEOPLE ARE DEVILS AND THEY SHOULD ALL BE KILLED!!!
Barb said,
November 16, 2006 at 3:03 pm
haha yeah. Ok new idea….hmmmmmm….So, should people be allowed to be openly gay in the army?
DanD said,
November 16, 2006 at 3:03 pm
wow. just, wow.
Barb said,
November 16, 2006 at 3:04 pm
excuse me, mary, but being gay isn’t a choice.
Are you as racist as you are prejudice?
Being a minority generally isn’t something you can choose.
Barb said,
November 16, 2006 at 3:05 pm
by the way, the haha wow was regarding to dans comment, not mary’s.
John said,
November 16, 2006 at 3:06 pm
Gay people to be able to join the army. There are people just with a different sexual oriention. If the want to join to serve there country let them.
Barb said,
November 16, 2006 at 3:08 pm
yeah I agree. The army always is saying it needs more people. They shouldn’t differentiate what kind of sexual orientation they are. Besides being overly prejudice, it’s way too picky.
Caitlin said,
November 16, 2006 at 3:09 pm
So, Mary, why do think that being gay is something that should merit the death penalty? Is it because of your religous beliefs? If so, I’m pretty sure that the Bible’s biggest message is peace and is against killing. Against gays? Then I suggest you don’t marry one, and instead spend that time going to Bible study circles and learning the REAL messages in the Bible, not the outdated ones (remember, the Bible also said slavery was okay, you got to look at the general message, not specific passages.)
Malinka said,
November 16, 2006 at 3:16 pm
yeah John but Barbara was asking if they should be able to say that they are gay. If you are gay and you are in the army you arent allowed to be open about it. I don’t understand why there is that dont ask dont tell law. More people have been removed from the army because of their sexual orientation than before that rule was made. I think that this goes against the constitution, because if you are openly gay you can get kicked out of the army. The army is goverment run so this makes the situation sooo much worse. if the goverment is preventing gays to be open there is no one above them to change it or stop it.
..::♥Nimo♥::.. said,
November 16, 2006 at 6:09 pm
I belive that gay marriage is wrong… I believe that we were made to be marrying the opposite sex so you can have a baby with them. Marriage should be between a man and a woman not a man and man. or a woman and a woman. If we were put on this earth to be given the option that we can marry the same sex then we would be able to have babies with the same sex.
thats my point of view***
PeAcE ♥
*+*Maria*+* said,
November 17, 2006 at 9:55 am
Nimo I have to disagree I think that people should marry who they want whether it’s a man and a man or a man and a woman also for a woman. It’s who they are.
$~*NImO*~$ said,
November 17, 2006 at 10:26 am
No, Maria im just saying that i’ts wrong being married to the same sex. I didn’t say their feelings are wrong. Also, I think they they don’t really have feelings for the same sex, they just “think” they do. I don’t think it’s really love
dani said,
November 17, 2006 at 11:09 am
nimo how can you tell me and others we dont feel what we feel?
that to me is a slap in the face saying what i feel isnt real
and nimo first you said that you think that their feelings arent wrong then you said they are,, which is it?
DanD said,
November 17, 2006 at 11:25 am
well how would you know if you are not homosexual? you seriously think that love is only between man and woman? you don’t think that gay love is true love? you think that someone’s sex matters?
dani said,
November 17, 2006 at 11:44 am
what?
restate that please
Sheldon said,
November 17, 2006 at 4:48 pm
NO ONE ANSWERED MY QUESTION!
Where did “Straight & Crooked” come from?!
..::♥Nimo♥::.. said,
November 17, 2006 at 5:03 pm
No, i don’t think it is TRUE LOVE!! i just think they think they feel that way. just because they think that person looks good or has a nice personality they think they have feelings for them….. it’s not. Why do we even have diffrent genders when if being gay is okay?
Sheldon said,
November 17, 2006 at 5:13 pm
I tottaly disagree!
NOW, WILL SOMEONE PLEASE JUST ANSWERE MY DANG QUESTION???!!!
Caitlin said,
November 17, 2006 at 7:01 pm
Nimo, who is anyone to judge a couple’s feelings for each other. What if I were to (this is hypothetical) say that whoever you have feelings for, that those feelings aren’t true love, because your feelings isn’t something that I feel is true love? I would have no right to say this, and you would most likely tell me it was none of my business. I don’t think any human has a right to tell someone else what they are feeling isn’t true or real. If homosexual people wish to marry I feel there should be no law against it because, really, they aren’t hurting anyone, they just want to have the legal rights you have as a married couple, and they want to actually be married to the one that they love. How is that wrong? After all, over 60% of marriges end in divorce anyways, so people really shouldn’t preach about how letting gays marry will somehow ruin the sacredness of marrige.
..::♥Nimo♥::.. said,
November 18, 2006 at 3:08 pm
okay okay i give up……. but i still think Gay marriage is WRONG!!! and i will never change my decision…. thats final
peace ♥
Caitlin said,
November 18, 2006 at 4:42 pm
What about it is wrong, Nimo? Please answer my questions from above so that I can better understand your reasoning.
..::♥Nimo♥::.. said,
November 18, 2006 at 5:14 pm
i just don’t think its right at all. if we were put on this earth to marry the same gender as us then we would be able to have babies with them and make a family…. how come only a man and a woman can get a baby but not the same sexes…huh?
Caitlin said,
November 18, 2006 at 7:23 pm
Because reproduction and love are two seperate things. Because of irresponsable reproduction there are many babies out there with no homes. Trust me; humans are at no risk of suffering from under population, so shouldn’t we let love rule marriage?
Barb said,
November 19, 2006 at 6:11 pm
sheldon, the reason at least I’M not answering your question is because it would take a bit of research to find out, and I’d rather not look something up that is that irrelevent. Does it matter where a name came from? I think it just matters how it is used, and by whom.
Sheldon said,
November 19, 2006 at 6:21 pm
Yes, It does… To me, because it is very annoying!
But if you don’t want to answere it than fine!
But would someone else try to answere it? It’s a fairly simple question.
$~*NImO*~$ said,
November 20, 2006 at 12:08 pm
SHELDON!! if you want to know where that saying came from then i suggest YOU research it. it would take less time if you research it then ask a question that no one would want to research. Instead of asking start typing it in on GOOGLE or sumthin…….
Sheldon said,
November 20, 2006 at 3:09 pm
SHEESH!! You don’t have to get all mad about it!
Caitlin said,
November 20, 2006 at 5:30 pm
Hey, Nimo; we finally agree on something! Sheldon, really, just go Google it. Nimo, could you answer my ‘let love rule marriage question’, please?
..::♥Nimo♥::.. said,
November 26, 2006 at 6:07 pm
Caitlin i never said being gay was wrong…i just said gay people getting married is what bothers me…
dani said,
November 27, 2006 at 10:19 am
what? nimo i can also debate the fact that there is no “true love” whatsoever. I can say that we all just have sexual feelings for each other and may like some other things about people.
york8 said,
November 27, 2006 at 12:07 pm
Whats so bad about gay people getting married, Nimo? Whats so sacred about getting leagly joined as man and wife? Why I could just say “We’re married!” to a random person and it would mean basicly the same thing.
~Marlowe
Barb said,
November 27, 2006 at 12:13 pm
While I agree that gay people should be able to get married, I disagree with your example marlowe. If you get married, than in theory you should love that person and like to be with them. Marriage is sort of a sacred thing, you’re saying that the other person is their one and only love. The argument really is if gay people can love like that. Obviously, I think they can completly.
york8 said,
November 27, 2006 at 2:55 pm
Love is love is love is love. We don’t choose who we love, we just love.
~Marlowe
Shyla said,
November 29, 2006 at 9:25 am
I agree with marlowe.
love is love. & you can`t always help who you love.
& if no body likes it then forget them you don`t got
to please everybody just yourself. so do what you want
& be happy.
Sheldon said,
November 29, 2006 at 4:11 pm
Hypocrite!
Elizabeth said,
November 29, 2006 at 7:26 pm
whose a hypocrite?
$~*NiMO*~$ said,
November 29, 2006 at 7:46 pm
gay marriage is wrong. but being gay is none of my business…
i just don’t like that idea of people getting marrie with the same gender… thats just me….. i don’t Hate gays….
Caitlin said,
November 30, 2006 at 9:24 am
Nimo, just because you are against gay marriage does not mean that the government should make gay marriage illegal. All they want to do is marry? How is that wrong?
Tyler K said,
November 30, 2006 at 10:16 am
Catlin, I agree with you I mean, all they want to do is get married, nimo whats your beef with that???
dani said,
November 30, 2006 at 10:58 am
gah
elizabeth i guess she say something derogitory about gays
LEAGALIZE GAY MARRIGES!!
Andrew said,
December 1, 2006 at 9:25 am
Nimo-if you don’t hate gays, then why din’t you want them to get married?
york8 said,
December 1, 2006 at 11:19 am
Yeah, come on. It doesnt make sense.
~Marlowe
John said,
December 2, 2006 at 10:57 pm
just cause she dosen’t want them to get married dosen’t mean she’s agaist gays.
Caitlin said,
December 3, 2006 at 3:35 pm
I never said she was against gays, I just don’t understand her logic being again gay marriage; this is what I am commenting on.
Caitlin said,
December 3, 2006 at 3:36 pm
I never said she was against gays, I just don’t understand her logic being against gay marriage; this is what I am commenting on.
Caitlin said,
December 3, 2006 at 3:36 pm
Sorry, I didn’t mean to post that twice.
$~*NImO*~$ said,
December 4, 2006 at 9:23 am
I believe that you should be able to be gay if you want to but i also believe that gays should not be allowed to marry…. it just doesn’t seem right to me….
WHO said that I hate gays??? i don’t
dani said,
December 4, 2006 at 9:31 am
but thats kinda like a double negotive, saying that its ok to be gay, but not to be married because of it
Barb said,
December 4, 2006 at 9:42 am
While I totally agree with gay people having rights, dani, as well as getting married; I can see how Nimo might think that marriage would be something so holy or important, that it has to be JUST between a man and a woman.
I certainly disagree. Nimo, i’m probably wrong about that, so feel free to correct me. Thats just what most people argue on the anti-gay marriage side.
$~*NImO*~$ said,
December 4, 2006 at 10:01 am
If we were put on this earth to be marrying the same gender…… then we would be able to have a baby with the same gender. How come only a Man and a Woman can only make a family..huh?!
dani said,
December 4, 2006 at 10:05 am
nimo if say its 2 women, they can get insemenated, and if its 2 men then they can just insemenate her and have her have nad carry the baby
Barb said,
December 4, 2006 at 10:07 am
Just because something or someone is different, doesn’t mean that he/she doesn’t have a purpose in life. Just because gay people cannot have kids doesen’t mean that they shouldn’t marry. They could adopt someone. I mean, marriage is more than having kids.
$~*NImO*~$ said,
December 4, 2006 at 10:08 am
Yeah but it’s not like that is done naturally… is it?!?!
no you have to do some science stuff at the hospitol..it’s not supposed to be like that…
DanD said,
December 4, 2006 at 10:57 am
how do you know what its “supposed to be like”?
dani said,
December 5, 2006 at 9:36 am
people shouldnt be capable of murder, but we are. If its not supposed to be like that then why is it?
dani said,
December 5, 2006 at 9:37 am
i could get married and not have kids. I could go and get married to “bob” and just decide i want to adopt, not have my own child
..::♥Nimo♥::.. said,
December 5, 2006 at 12:05 pm
Im not saying that the people who support gay marriage is wrong…im just saying i don’t believe in that….why can’t you guys just live with that?? is not like im gonna change the law… i don’t critizize you in your opinions.
THAT’S MY OPINION AND THAT’S FINAL
york8 said,
December 5, 2006 at 12:17 pm
Wait but you want the same rights for gay people, right? Then why can’t they get married? Or adopt a child? Or have artifical insemenation or a surrugate mother? WHY?
~Marlowe
..::♥Nimo♥::.. said,
December 5, 2006 at 1:09 pm
i’m not saying their shouldn’t be gay marriages or whatever marlowe was talking about…. i’m just saying it isn’t right TO ME. i’ts none of my business what people do to get kids when they are gay…im just I DON’T THINK it’s right….its not like im gonna change the law just because of what I THINK…..
sheesh
PeAcE
♥ ♥
dani said,
December 5, 2006 at 2:54 pm
but nimo when we get older and can vote, you could help change the laws so technacly yes you could help cahnge the laws
Barb said,
December 5, 2006 at 8:49 pm
Nimo,
How are we criticizing you? You posted your belief on the blog, which I totally respect. We have a right to question you and wonder the full meaning of what you say. In order for US to form opinions, we need to ask others theirs! You just happen to be the minority in this subject, and you wil probably be recieving many more questions.
dani said,
December 6, 2006 at 9:36 am
hooray for barbra!
nimo we just want to see if you have, ummmmm how do i out this… “good reasons” to think that…..
..::♥Nimo♥::.. said,
December 6, 2006 at 4:26 pm
i don’t know…. it’s just to me it doesnt seem right…