Abortion
One of the most controversial subjects in America today is abortion. Please let your opinions about this issue be heard.
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Tristan said,
October 16, 2006 at 12:56 pm
I think this vote should be up to the women. Us guys will never have a baby, so we don’t know how bad it is. Personally, I think that murder is a crime. Yet, I don’t know if the fetus is alive, so is it murder? This subject often gives me a headache, as it’s so controversial.
jesse said,
October 16, 2006 at 5:03 pm
I think that abortion should be a decision that both the man and woman discuss. Just because the woman gave birth to the baby does not mean that she has any more control over the baby then the man.
On the other hand, if the woman did not know the man, or the man raped the woman, then by all means, the woman would have the right to do whatever she wanted with the FETUS.
I am very pro choice but if my wife wanted to get an abortion because we did not have enough money or another good reason, then I would at least want to talk to her about it.
Such debates like this one are so personal, that they should not even be debated. When a woman wants to abort a fetus, that is not murder, the fetus does not even have nerves. Its not a living thing yet.
well see yall tomorrow PeAcE OuT
Tristan said,
October 17, 2006 at 9:26 am
good point
Malone said,
October 17, 2006 at 10:14 am
I think that it should be up to women to have a an abortion. If a woman has had 7 or 8 kids and to have another kid would kill her then I think abortion is nessary, but on the other hand if a girl just wanted an abortion because she messed up and didn’t protect herself properly then I think that she should not be able to get an abortion, its not the babys’ fault that their mom made a mistake. Im not calling people who had a abortion a bad person im just saying it all depends on the circumstances.
Barb said,
October 17, 2006 at 10:30 am
yeah. I think that it should be the woman’s choice. I don’t think that the government should get involved with such deeply personal choices and issues as this. There are so many stories about illegal abortions killing the mothers, that we could be saving lives by keeping abortions legal. I like what Tristan said about having the woman decide, and about how controversial it is.
Caitlin said,
October 17, 2006 at 10:41 am
When we figure out how to make things so the people who are already born all have enough food and loving homes, then, maybe, we can worry about what to do about unborn fetuses. Until then, lets worry about the people who are already born, and leave the choice up to the woman.
Marlowe said,
October 17, 2006 at 11:05 am
The woman is the only person on Earth that has the right and the authority to have an abortion. No one, not her husband/wife or President, has the right to tell her what to do with HER body.
Dan said,
October 17, 2006 at 11:25 am
yeah. my opinion is, if you don’t like abortions, don’t have one. PEACE
york8 said,
October 17, 2006 at 11:27 am
Wow, how totally uninformed! The issue isnt wether to have one or not, but whether it goes against God!
-Marlowe
york8 said,
October 17, 2006 at 12:16 pm
Uh… Marlowe-kun… The topic is abortion itself, not necessarily if it goes against God or not. That, and not everyone here believes in God, so let’s avoid saying it too much…Not to be mean or anything!
-Tristan
JEnni said,
October 17, 2006 at 12:16 pm
i agree with ness… some people need to have an abortion or just want one.. and it is there own body so yeah i do think that they should be able to do what they want with there body.. i have a friend who has had and abortion… she wanted what was right for her kid she didn’t want them to be raised by a mother who couldn’t handle having a kid… i understand how some people think that it is the the persons fault for not using condoms … and yeah they could have prevented it but would you really want someone to have a kid if they had no way to support it or just didn’t want it to live the life that they do….
I agree with kendra on the abortion thing because abortion is a very serious matter if some one has unprotected sex then they get pregnant they should be able to get an abortion because if they were only 13, or 14 then they should be able to kill it so they don’t have to have the baby.I know if I got pregnant then I want to have the opition to have an abortion or keep the baby.If I did get pregnant then I would have an abortion because I am only 13 and im not ready to have a baby.
york8 said,
October 17, 2006 at 12:19 pm
You guys are all right. But it should be partially a guys choice. If the guy made the baby then he should say if he wants it or not. It’s not all a womens choice. They should always talk to each other about it. We should have just as much as right as the girl to tlak aobut it. Nobody has the right to die. I mean at least have the baby nad then put it up for adoption. It is hardenough for women with miscarriges. They sometimes look for other babies. God says that shall not murder. Abortion is murder. Therefore I think that abortion should be banned!
For now,
Andrew
Dani said,
October 17, 2006 at 12:25 pm
I wrote a paper on this last year and this sounds wierd, but I am on both sides. I think that abortion is horrible and I think it is murder. But then again it is up to the woman having the baby, if she wants an abortion just because, then I think that is wrong, but if has a purpose, like if she was raped, or it was against her religion to have a child at her age, or out of wedlock, or whatever, then it is fine. I am such a confusing person,…. sorry.
Think of all the great things that come out of stem cell research, but then again, it’s like a life for a life. Okay. I’ll stop now, I’m confusing myself……..
Dani said,
October 17, 2006 at 12:28 pm
andrew, but not everyone listens/belives in god. i dont. if god says something that i dont agree with then heck i dont agree wioth it . what you are saying is bringing up religion and we all have different religions.
york8 said,
October 17, 2006 at 12:30 pm
Dani you are very correct. It is murder. nobody should get away with it
Andrew
Dani said,
October 17, 2006 at 1:59 pm
gahhhhh but i dont ermn ahhh
you see i am on both sides it depends on why the woman is getting an abortiopn.
wait this makes no sense im being a hypocrite
umm if anybody knows what i mean please help
in trying top explain
Thao said,
October 18, 2006 at 8:48 am
I agree with both sides because having abortion it is like wasting life of the baby. But the other side that I agree with, they should have an abortion cause if they don’t feel like having the baby then they have the right to have an abortion.
That what I think…
Dani said,
October 18, 2006 at 9:23 am
thao i agree with you but its confusing to me
Andrew said,
October 18, 2006 at 9:33 am
ok Dani im sorry to confuse you. I understand that you are on both sides. And you are right im am bringing up my religion but I can!
Sorry
Dani said,
October 18, 2006 at 9:42 am
yes i know thAT YOU CAN, BUT NOT EVERYBODY THINKS THAT SO YOU HAAVE TO TRY AND LOOK AT IT BOTH WAYS
Thao said,
October 18, 2006 at 9:47 am
I agree with you Dani. But how its confusing you ?
york8 said,
October 18, 2006 at 9:48 am
Calm down, Dani… It’s true, Andrew can bring his religion into the blog. He apologized, too. Don’t be too hard on him.
-Tristan
Thao said,
October 18, 2006 at 9:52 am
Yea Tristain i agree wuth you but i don’t get this how it is confusing to her ( Dani)?
Dani said,
October 18, 2006 at 9:56 am
gahh ok then i did caps by accident because i was typing too fast and it seems confusing because i agree with both sides and it seems hard to defent both sides!
if i seemed to “hard” on andrew, nad i think that he signed sorry to say sorry that he confused me sooo………….
Marlowe said,
October 18, 2006 at 12:07 pm
Murder?!!? Are you guys SERIOUS?! That may be you oppinion but, dear sweet god! Picture this?
A 15 year old gril is raped and cant support a baby. Would you tell her to keep it and maybe have it die painfully or starve? She might loose work and have to live on the streets.
Happy now? Or perhaps a family is so poor that they cant support another child and boom the wife is pregnant. Think about it
A fetus is NOT and I repeat NOT alive, therefor theirs not and ‘murder’, this has been scientificly determined. So, really wake up, and open your, media brainwashed, eyes.
york8 said,
October 18, 2006 at 1:14 pm
My! Someone’s not happy! Let’s try to keep things to commenting on other people’s opinions, not insulting them. This is a blog for discussion, not a boxing ring. Not to be mean or anything…I just don’t want anyone’s feelings to be hurt.
-Tristan
york8 said,
October 18, 2006 at 1:22 pm
I was saying sorry for both things Dani!
And Tristan–it’s ok–if i have the right it say what I want to, she has the right to say what she wants.
SO you weren’t being to hard Dani, I understand your view.
Andrew
york8 said,
October 18, 2006 at 1:24 pm
Oh, I know, Andrew. She put on caps by a mistake, but I didn’t know that. I thought she was angry.
-Tristan
Caitlin said,
October 18, 2006 at 5:13 pm
Really people; if you don’t believe having an abortion is moral then DON’T HAVE ONE!
I really don’t think the real issue here is whether or not abortion is moral; it’s whether or not the government has the right to tell woman what they can or can’t do with their bodies. This is a fetus we’re talking about, people! Many, many fetuses die of natural causes without the woman even knowing she’s pregenent. Think about that
Angela said,
October 19, 2006 at 10:44 am
i think that abortion is bad becuase your killing the kid and it’s your fault that you made the mistake and if your going to kill the baby it’s murder so i think that if your are going to have a abortion dont because its mean so i think that you should just have the baby and let someone adopt it thats ready.
Dani said,
October 19, 2006 at 11:45 am
angela thta is a really good idea, but what if the family like disowns her?
Aaron said,
October 19, 2006 at 12:41 pm
i dont know alot about aborttions but i think its fine. the kid is to young to know whats happening. its ushally that persosns own fault that there pregnent but it doesnt mean they should have to go through haveing a kid if they dont want one, and if they did have a kid they might just ditch it and the kid could end up alot worse then getting killed before there evan a couple seconds old.
york8 said,
October 19, 2006 at 12:59 pm
Angela, do I really need to say this again? You said “its your fault if you have the baby”. Really? Well what If the woman was raped? I’m sure thats totally her fault.
~Marlowe
Nimo said,
October 19, 2006 at 1:13 pm
I believe that abortion should be illegal because I think that abortion is murder… the poor little baby had no say or anything and then it gets killed like that!!! Even if the women got raped or got pregnant out of wedlock, then they could have just gave birth to the baby then give it up to adoption. So that it gets a chance to LIVE and find a loving family to take care of the baby. Every person has a right to live, and if you were a good person it wouldn’t even matter to you that you got that baby from being raped or out of wedlock…… it shouldn’t be the baby’s fault.
P.S if you cannot take care of a baby then use protection so you don’t get PREGNANT!!
york8 said,
October 19, 2006 at 1:17 pm
“P.S if you cannot take care of a baby then use protection so you don’t get PREGNANT!!”
Wow, and I’m sure rapists like having condoms on.
“I believe that abortion should be illegal because I think that abortion is murder… the poor little baby had no say or anything and then it gets killed like that!!!”
Even though a fetus isnt alive, nor is it a baby. Before you make a dicison, check you facts.
~Marlowe
Jordan said,
October 19, 2006 at 1:18 pm
I don’t think that abortion should be legal. I think that right when the egg gets fertilized it becomes a human life. By aborting the baby, in my opinion, I think that that’s murder. If you go and get pregnant and then decide you don’t want the baby you can’t just go and kill it. If you feel that you don’t want the baby there are other ways to get rid of it. When you have the baby you can put it up for adoption. It was your decision to get pregnant and you need to own up to the consequence. I also believe that there should be some exemptions. One exemption would be if you got pregnant because you got raped. Another exemption would be if the woman might die because she kept the baby. Basically if it was your decision to get pregnant you shouldn’t have an abortion.
Dan said,
October 19, 2006 at 1:20 pm
i agree with caitlin on the fact that the government has no right to tell women what they can or can’t do with their own bodies. i think that if that can happen, then the government is less of a democracy, and more of a dictatorship.
Graehme said,
October 19, 2006 at 1:20 pm
I agree with Dani, I think abortion is wrong but it should be the woman’s choice, not the government’s. Because they don’t know why, it might be for a really good reason, like what if they say the baby is going to be born with some kind of fatal birth defect? Then it would be completely different.
york8 said,
October 19, 2006 at 1:21 pm
“I also believe that there should be some exemptions. One exemption would be if you got pregnant because you got raped. Another exemption would be if the woman might die because she kept the baby. Basically if it was your decision to get pregnant you shouldn’t have an abortion.”
Really enough with the “your fault you got pregant”. Ever heard of deffective condoms?
~Marlowe
Domminiece said,
October 19, 2006 at 1:21 pm
I agree with angela
Graehme said,
October 19, 2006 at 1:21 pm
Good point about the dictatorship thing Dan
york8 said,
October 19, 2006 at 1:22 pm
Yes quite.
~Marlowe
Jordan said,
October 19, 2006 at 1:27 pm
Marlowe, there are defective condoms out there but when you decide to have intercourse that is a risk you need to consider.
york8 said,
October 19, 2006 at 1:29 pm
….Right, even though you have no way of knowing? “I think I’ll take a risk, and I dont know what it is!”
~Marlowe
Jordan said,
October 19, 2006 at 1:31 pm
What do you mean marlowe? Could you please clarifiy?
Elizabeth said,
October 19, 2006 at 1:36 pm
I totally agree with Nimo. If you really do not want the kid that much then you can give it up for adoption and let it have a chance to live. Its not the babys fault that you messed up!! That baby that you kill when you have an abortion could have been the one that found a cure for cancer or ended world hunger. If you have an abortion it is like murder. It is cruel and wrong.
patrick said,
October 19, 2006 at 2:08 pm
I think that abortion should be should be legal if a mother really doesnt know how to take care of her child she should be able to abort him/her
Willie said,
October 19, 2006 at 2:10 pm
i disagree with jordan. When the egg gets fertalized it is not a human being. It is merely a growing embreio. An embreo does not understand the concept of life and death. It doesnt understand anything.
The whole reason murder is so bad is because the victim is seriously bumming and so is everyone around him or her. But if the two people that are the only people that know it (its parents) don’t want to have it, they shouldn’t be forced to. What if someone got raped? would you let abortion go then? It’s no different in the case of a broken condom or if it was just unintentional mistake. If the baby is going to live in an unlivable condition, or will not be nurtured properly the parents are saving it by not having it.
The person this “murder act” would affect most is the parents. And if they don’t think the baby is safe or they can’t take care of it, thyey shouldn’t have to have the baby.
Franciska said,
October 19, 2006 at 2:12 pm
I think that abortion should be illegal because your killing a kid. it’s another word for murder. It’s you fault for having a baby UNLESS you were raped or something.
Casey said,
October 19, 2006 at 2:15 pm
Ness Says:
April 6th, 2006 at 8:59 am
I agree with Dylan. Sometimes it is needed or prefered. My main issue with Abortion though is what right do other people have to tell someone else that what they do with thier own body is illegal. Murdering someone else is one thing. The baby has not even been born yet and so has noe feelings.
My favorite pro abortion qoute;
“If you cut off my reproductive choice, can i cut off yours?”
michael Says:
April 6th, 2006 at 9:24 am
ness has a good point abortion is what you think of it. but it you don’t agree with abortion then don’t do it, simple as that.
^^these are comments that were submitted last year. I don’t understand why people are trying to make this so much more complicated than it is seriously.
IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH ABORTION THAN DONT GET ONE, it should not be up to the government or anyone else to say that a person cannot abort their unborn child!!!!!!!!
Jenessa said,
October 19, 2006 at 9:22 pm
I think that abortion should be illegal, because it is your fault if you get pregnant and you should take the responsibility and take care of the baby. If you are really young and your parents say you can not keep the baby you should at least have it .I think when you have a abortion it is like murder because you are killing the baby.
york8 said,
October 20, 2006 at 10:25 am
@_@ (spinning eyes)
See what I mean when I say that this is such a controvertial issue? I have no way of finding my opinion on this…. I’m a guy, how would I know about having a baby? For all I know, it could hurt more than I can imagine! I dunno…
-Tristan
Marlowe said,
October 20, 2006 at 11:13 am
# Jenessa Says:
October 19th, 2006 at 9:22 pm e
I think that abortion should be illegal, because it is your fault if you get pregnant and you should take the responsibility and take care of the baby. If you are really young and your parents say you can not keep the baby you should at least have it .I think when you have a abortion it is like murder because you are killing the baby.
This has to be a joke. Did you read the earlier comments? Rape and deffective condoms are not ‘your fault’
John said,
October 22, 2006 at 1:29 pm
MARLOWE you keep saying the same thing!!!!!
Emma said,
October 23, 2006 at 1:48 pm
I think people should be able to choose. I know it’s terrible, to think of what that baby could have been, but when you think about it, usually the circumstance of the people are devastating like rape. Also we must take into consideration pure stupidity. Some one has sex- oops, here comes a baby. Always always ALWAYS I think they should see if someone wants to adopt it first, like a gay couple or some one who isn’t able to have children. If not, then I think they should be able to have an abortion, once, if the cause was just from un safe sex. Then if they do it again, they have to have the baby, and either deal with the consequences or give it up to an orphanage. I think that’s fair.
york8 said,
October 23, 2006 at 1:58 pm
John, no I keep correcting people, and using the same situation to correct them, theres a difference.
~Marlowe
John said,
October 23, 2006 at 2:00 pm
Yes i agree with emma they should see if some one want to adopt it like a gay or lesbian couple
Courtney said,
October 23, 2006 at 2:17 pm
I think that abortion should be illegal. I think that it’s their fault. If the mother doesn’t want the baby, or if they’re too young, why kill a perfectly healthy baby because of the mistake of the mohter. That baby could be the next president and they would be ending their life. I think that they should have the baby and then put him/her up for adoption so then someone that cant have a baby can adopt one.
york8 said,
October 23, 2006 at 2:19 pm
Must..resist..correcting..comments…GAAH! I’m just going to say: Read the other comments, because its not all was their fault.
~Marlowe
John said,
October 23, 2006 at 2:24 pm
Marlowe you don’t always have to correct people you know that right
John said,
October 23, 2006 at 2:26 pm
Marlowe you can’t correct people opion’s
Emma said,
October 24, 2006 at 9:06 am
Yes, though. It is a good idea to read previous comments to see if you can make new points so it’s not a continual argument.
york8 said,
October 24, 2006 at 9:12 am
Yes! THANK YOU!
~Marlowe
Kyle said,
October 24, 2006 at 9:52 am
Abortion should be legal because if you get pregnant on accident and dont want the baby than you should have the right to get rid of it. And if you think about it, you have wasted/killed a lot of other babies, those times you used a condom.
Margaret said,
October 24, 2006 at 9:54 am
I think abortion should continue to be legal. Yes, I do think it a horrible thing to kill a baby, but if it is made illegal than people that can’t take care of babies will still find ways to have an illegal abortion. Also, you guys have been saying that it is the mothers fault. It’s not always the mother’s fault. People get raped and there isn’t anything they can do about it. Say someone’s still in school gets raped and they know they can’t take care of the baby, that’s why we should keep abortion legal. If we keep it legal it will be safer for the mother.
Holly said,
October 24, 2006 at 9:59 am
I agree with Emma. The mothers should find someone to adopt the baby. It may not be the mother’s fault, but it would be a baby someday. It may not be a baby yet, so it isn’t technically murder, but it is killing something that could be someone very important. It may be the next Einstein. Everyone is someone, so is that baby. I think abourtion should be should be legal, but it is a terrible decision and it may not be a legal crime, but it is moral one.
york8 said,
October 24, 2006 at 10:27 am
Fundememantaly I still disagree, but I’ll conceed to that.
~Marlowe
Dan said,
October 24, 2006 at 10:46 am
president? come on! it all depends on who raises the baby. its not like you can say, “oh yeah, i had a kid that was going to cure cancer but i had an abortion instead”
Malinka said,
October 24, 2006 at 10:46 am
I think that abortion should be legal. As margaret said if its illegal women will still find a way to get an abortion. but thats when it becomes unsafe. Illegal abortions oftenly end in the death of the women. If you dont agree with abortions dont get one. Last year someone said that if abortions become legal there will be no more children in the United States because every women would get an abortion. This is obviously not true because if you dissagree with abortion you’re not going to get one. And dont ever say its the womens fault because most of the time when someone wants to get an abortion its because they were raped. and you can only blame that on the guy.
Elizabeth said,
October 24, 2006 at 9:47 pm
Dan said,
October 24, 2006 at 10:46 am
president? come on! it all depends on who raises the baby. its not like you can say, “oh yeah, i had a kid that was going to cure cancer but i had an abortion instead”
me:
Dan you can’t say “I had a baby that was going to cure cancer but I had an abortion instead” that does not make sense… also many people have risin above their bad childhood. Take Oprah for example she had a very bad childhood and look what she has done with her life There is also an option called adoption.
Sheldon said,
October 24, 2006 at 9:56 pm
I AGREE WITH YOU TOTALLY “LIZ”!!!
york8 said,
October 25, 2006 at 8:38 am
..for once I have no witty comeback…
~Marlowe
Heather said,
October 25, 2006 at 9:02 am
I totally agree with Angela! I think the same way, it is murder because you are taking someone’s life just so you can be happy. Also you should just keep the baby if you can’t afford to keep it or take care of it, you should have it then put it up for adoption, not just kill it! I mean yeah its just a fetus but its only a fetus right now because it is NOT done growing!! and that is my opinion =]
signed,
Heather
Nimo said,
October 25, 2006 at 9:05 am
MARLOWE!!! CAN YOU PLEASE STOP CORRECTING WHAT EVERYONE SAYS??? YOU DON’T HAVE TO CORRECT EVERYONE JUST SO YOU CAN LOOK SMART…. AND PLEASE ASK MY PERMISSION BEFORE YOU CORRECT ME PLEASE…
duong said,
October 25, 2006 at 9:05 am
I think that it should be a law about abortion because it is not right. It is like you are killing someone. I think that the only thing that they want to kill is the baby because they don’t know who is the dad and might not be able to care for the child. Still I think it is wrong that some women kill a life just because they don’t know the dad is. If someone got raped then they still should not have a abortion they should give it to an orphanage.
John said,
October 25, 2006 at 9:06 am
YA I agree with Nimo.
york8 said,
October 25, 2006 at 9:11 am
Nimo said,
October 25, 2006 at 9:05 am · Edit
MARLOWE!!! CAN YOU PLEASE STOP CORRECTING WHAT EVERYONE SAYS??? YOU DON’T HAVE TO CORRECT EVERYONE JUST SO YOU CAN LOOK SMART…. AND PLEASE ASK MY PERMISSION BEFORE YOU CORRECT ME PLEASE…
holy sweet mother of God..I correct people to prove and show my point. And theres no way in the world we occupy you can make me stop spreading my opinions.
~Marlowe
MiiSz. ViCKii said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:11 pm
I think girls should only be able to get an abortion if they were raped. People are getting pregnant earlier and earlier in age every year. Sex is more serius than people take it as ;; If they really cared about not having a baby than they would have made sure there was protection. People don’t realize what they’re doing and they just don’t know how many people they could hurt just by one reaction. I’m not saying abortion is wrong, it’s just cheating.
Salena said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:14 pm
Well, I think abortion should be legal because abortion’s not exactly killing any one when the baby is still in the mother’s stomach and when the baby hasn’t even grown all the way yet. So since the baby’s not alive yet, I don’t think that murder.
Billy said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:17 pm
I don’t agree with Tristan because I think that the right to vote on this issue should be for women and men.Even though the women are the one with the baby, the men are the father and they should have a choice for having an abortion or not.
Shyla said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:17 pm
I think that abortion should not be illegal because abortion is ok in my opinion. It is up to the mother on what happens with her child not anyone else’s yes maybe they should be smarter about protection but it is their opinion on what they do with their and their child’s life.
John said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:18 pm
york8 said,
October 23, 2006 at 1:58 pm
John, no I keep correcting people, and using the same situation to correct them, theres a difference.
~Marlowe
Thats not spreading your opion
Sheldon said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:18 pm
I guess you are right in some aspects.
Aaron said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:20 pm
Well Marlowe other people have there own opinions too. You cant say there wrong.
Sheldon said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:20 pm
Shyla that is a good point.
**Nimo** said,
October 25, 2006 at 4:52 pm
Marlowe im not asking you to stop writing your opinions…. im just telling you to stop correcting people so much. We are here to write our opinions….. not get corrected about what we believe in……
Sheldon said,
October 25, 2006 at 4:58 pm
Today when you said that during S.S. I thought you said he was correcting your typos.
Barb said,
October 26, 2006 at 10:36 am
hey guys, lets stick to the topic…..abortion. We won’t get anywhere slamming marlowe or anyone else. If you don’t like that people correct you, then just do a spell check or something.
Thao said,
October 26, 2006 at 12:29 pm
Salena said,
October 25, 2006 at 12:14 pm
Well, I think abortion should be legal because abortion’s not exactly killing any one when the baby is still in the mother’s stomach and when the baby hasn’t even grown all the way yet. So since the baby’s not alive yet, I don’t think that murder.
My Comment @ 12:24
I don’t agree with Salena because she is saying that if the women have the right to have an abortion and kill the baby which the women don’t want the baby and that it is not a murder.
How it is not a murder ?
york8 said,
October 26, 2006 at 1:58 pm
Well its sicentificly proven that fetuses are not alive.
~Marlowe
Barb said,
October 26, 2006 at 1:59 pm
How is it a murder?
Who are we to decide? People who are anti-abortion don’t seem to be answering these questions at all. And the people who try to, are guys. Shouldn’t that woman decide? yeah, I think so. We have enough white men deciding what should happen to the majority.
dani said,
October 30, 2006 at 2:54 pm
barbra what do you mean by white men?
Barb said,
October 30, 2006 at 3:06 pm
Oh, I just meant that most of the politicians that make all the decicions about abortion or gay right etc., are rich, caucasion men, and that doesn’t represent the majority of america, or the people that the laws effect.
Dani said,
October 30, 2006 at 3:08 pm
oh ok i didnt get it at first so thatnks for clearing it up!!
Mohamed said,
October 31, 2006 at 3:05 pm
I thing It’s wrong to allow abortion, because if you let that happen then that’s killing someone.
dani said,
October 31, 2006 at 3:13 pm
but mohammed, the fetus is not alive…
gah
nick said,
October 31, 2006 at 3:19 pm
dani a fetus is as much alive as anything because it grows and started out as a cell wich is a living organism remember ms.fitz told us that cells are alive
Kyle said,
November 1, 2006 at 10:42 am
A featus is alive it’s just not fully developed, it’s kind of like a ant, it dosen’t know it’s alive. It just eats and sleeps.
dani said,
November 1, 2006 at 12:18 pm
what do you mean ants dont know their alive?
well i guess there is test that have proven that the fetus is not “alive”
so idk
gah
Barb said,
November 1, 2006 at 3:38 pm
if we aren’t sure that the fetus is alive, or has a mind, than why not leave it up the the mother? We can’t rely on facts until proven, so let’s make it the woman’s choice!
Caitlin said,
November 3, 2006 at 11:00 am
The fact that lots of fetuses die before the couple even knows it is also something that should be considered. Why can’t a woman choose to do something that happens on its own all the time, anyways?
Elizabeth said,
November 4, 2006 at 10:10 pm
It is compleatly different if it happens on its own then if you get an abortion though…
Max said,
November 6, 2006 at 2:26 pm
I think that abortion is just wrong, if you dont want to have a baby and you think it is a mistake than have the baby and give it up for adoption. Don’t murder an innocent baby for something that was an accident, it is like killing a person on the outside as if killing a baby in the inside of a woman…..
Casey said,
November 12, 2006 at 11:48 am
Max, do you have any idea what women go through…
There are very complicated circumstances in which people abort their children!
I agree people should be more careful and not go around having sex with random people and then saying they can get an abortion if they become impregnated. Even the fact of getting an abortion is something mothers have to live with everyday, it’s not like they just wake up and decide they want to abort their child. The way you put it, it sounds as though they have had the child and are smothering it with a pillow this fetus is unborn and technically it isn’t even a human yet.
Actually if you think about it not getting pregnant every month would be killing your child because if your egg doesn’t get fertilized your “unborn child” gets killed. Correct? Well not like you would know being a guy but well yes girl release eggs every month and if they don’t get fertilized then they get “flushed”
Well just something to think about.
dani said,
November 13, 2006 at 9:54 am
wow casey thatas really true
Barb said,
November 14, 2006 at 3:57 pm
That’s a good point, Casey, but then again if the egg isn’t fertilized, than it never really began in the first place. Plus, obviously, abortion is a choice, unlike the other, which is natural.
Sheldon said,
November 14, 2006 at 5:08 pm
…awkward…
DanD said,
November 16, 2006 at 2:07 pm
indeed
Barb said,
November 19, 2006 at 6:04 pm
hey,excuse me for answering a NEW point for in this blog.
)
(you guys can stop blushing.
But, it goes back to when is something “alive” and when is it not? Though things can live, it is definitley not a super homicide if you abort a baby. I mean, would you rather have a baby die in a womb, barely alive, or have a hard life around who knows what circumstances. You just don’t know what life is ahead, so why say a big NO? It’s not like every woman in the world’s going to, just those who need to have an abortion.
Sheldon said,
November 20, 2006 at 3:45 pm
I c what u r saying
Elizabeth said,
November 20, 2006 at 5:36 pm
ok here is something else to think about: There is this guy who will do full term abortions to girls/women who say that they are “depressed”.
Elizabeth said,
November 20, 2006 at 5:37 pm
ok here is something else to think about: There is this guy who will do full term abortions for girls/women who say that they are “depressed”. Now how do you feel about that?
Barb said,
November 20, 2006 at 6:53 pm
could you go into that more? I don’t really understand what you’re saying.
dani said,
November 21, 2006 at 11:48 am
uhhh wha?
like..
wait what?
Sheldon said,
November 24, 2006 at 10:47 pm
Who r u?!!!
Caitlin said,
November 25, 2006 at 10:49 am
I’d like to remind people that this is a public blog designed for debate and posting of different people’s opinions. If you have personal issues/questions I suggest you do not post them, unless you are okay with everyone who views this blog seeing whatever your comment may be.
Sheldon said,
November 26, 2006 at 2:50 pm
Yes!
dani said,
November 27, 2006 at 10:28 am
ummm okay….
?
sweet now im an advice giver
heh
ok anyways…
well i read jillians collage assement and her collage was freedom from fear and she did the fear on abortion so people should go read it nad we can talk about it
york8 said,
November 27, 2006 at 12:00 pm
OH my! I’m so insulted! A girl! Dear me the worst insult ever. Seriously a concussed,beaten up, half blind, dead in the brain, run over chipmunk could have made a better insult. Seriously if I see idiotic, insulting, person stuff on this blog again, I will personaly delete it, one piece of code at a time.
dani said,
November 27, 2006 at 12:10 pm
omg marlowe!
calm down its just some kid that wants to push your buttons and your just leeting him/her get to you
you make a pretty girl
BACK TO ABORTION
read jillians collage assement
please!
John said,
November 27, 2006 at 12:11 pm
Marlowe you have insulted me to my face before and i dont wine or cry about it.
york8 said,
November 27, 2006 at 12:17 pm
Have I? Oh my mistake, but I seem to be afflicted with a case of not caring in the slightest. My apologises. And yes, I would make a pretty girl.
~Marlowe
dani said,
November 27, 2006 at 1:19 pm
agh stop it!!
marlowe you are supposed to be a blog manager not a blog insulter!!
Tyler K said,
November 27, 2006 at 2:23 pm
I agree with dani, marlowe.; your acting like it’s a big deal, now grow up and be the best little girl you can be!!( just joking)
Tyler K said,
November 27, 2006 at 2:28 pm
Oh and who ever this Mahuammud Karaka person is your games on picking on Marlowe and Sheldon are a bit childish. So if I were you, I’d cut the crap out now!
Tyler K said,
November 27, 2006 at 2:41 pm
And also, what are you getting at by picking on them anyway, Mahaummuad Karaka? It sounds like to me that your picking on them probably because your just jealous of them being great students, and of their hard work to.Something that you wish you could do but can’t.
By the way, really lame name to.
york8 said,
November 27, 2006 at 2:52 pm
Tyler..thats so nice! Calling me a good student! I’m gonna be the best little girl I can be!
~Marlowe
dani said,
November 27, 2006 at 2:54 pm
ok well like i said abortion
not marlowe and his girlyness looks
ok well does muhamud krakaka have the right to insult youm people on the blog?
Barb said,
November 27, 2006 at 2:57 pm
he does, but that defeats the whole idea. What’s the point? It’s a way to stray from the issues, especially if, I may add the person has no justifiable opinion about anything.
Willie said,
November 27, 2006 at 2:58 pm
This blog has become a battle field… and marlowe you are only encouraging it
marlowe just tell everyone to stop this nonsense, you are a blog leader… u need to encourage everyone to stop even if your a target.
We need to stay on topic.
i think abortion should be legal.. if a woman can’s suport a baby she should have the right to not have it.. lets start this topic up again. Please.
york8 said,
November 27, 2006 at 3:01 pm
You’re right will. So heres an ultimatum: No personal stuff, no insults, no inapropriate stuff, and no idiocy. Anymore and its gone, uderstand?
Back to abortion:
Abortion is a womans choice. Its her body, and the government or her family really have no say with whta she does with her own body.
~Marlowe
Barb said,
November 27, 2006 at 3:02 pm
Dani,
I read Jillian’s piece. I completly disagree. It seems like people who are pro-life simply cannot grasp some key parts of the issue. Such as rape, and the fact that the fetus isn’t really “alive”. It was written well, but you could tell that she was not writing both sides of the issue, which bugs me a bit, because a great piece of writing shows both sides.
Willie said,
November 27, 2006 at 3:02 pm
thank you marlowe
and i agree with you on both topics
york8 said,
November 27, 2006 at 3:09 pm
Thanks. Very true barb.
~MArlowe
york8 said,
November 27, 2006 at 3:11 pm
Just so everyone knows, the posts under the name Muhammad Karaka where spam, and they have been deleted. The poster was not the Mohamed from york 8, an for and he has proven this. We at Team blog are always on the lookout for spam, and if anyone would like to report some, write down the topic, poster and and all required information, give it to me, and I will delete it. Thank you,
-Tristan
Sheldon said,
November 27, 2006 at 8:06 pm
Good!
Thanks, Especially you Tyler.
dani said,
November 28, 2006 at 12:25 pm
ok well i think that people who are against abortion should get to know thier facts a little more before they start talking about murderers
york8 said,
November 28, 2006 at 1:20 pm
Yeah.
~Marlowe
Shyla said,
November 29, 2006 at 9:14 am
Abortion isn`t murdering your child.
There not even developed yet. & when
your young & you can`t raise a kid.
& to scared to give it up to someone
else. kcuz think about it giving away
your own kid to someone you hardly
know & having the chance of never
seeing them again. But abortion yea it
is wrong to some people but think about
it at least there okay now. & its not like
your killing your kid. kcuz your not.
you still think about them everyday & you
still cry everything that pops in your head
about the baby like the day you got it done.
But its not a bad thing so before you start
saying your killing you own child think before
you speak because your not.
york8 said,
November 29, 2006 at 9:34 am
I have no idea.
~Marlowe
Thao said,
November 29, 2006 at 9:54 am
I kinda agree with shyla but then at the same time you are killing your baby.
John said,
November 29, 2006 at 9:56 am
Ya people this blog was ment to dicuss topics not personally attack people. I may not agree with Marlowe on some topics, but I debate with him not verbally attack him, that dosent solve anything.
york8 said,
November 29, 2006 at 9:57 am
Very true John. I apologise for the times I was a jerk to ya. I’ve said my piece on this subject, so carry on talking, I’ll just be waiting to clean up the mess.
~Marlowe
Thao said,
November 29, 2006 at 9:58 am
lol I AGREE WITH U TOO JOHN
Tyler K said,
November 30, 2006 at 10:36 am
Shyla, acullay, you are killing the kid if u come to think about it, because, 6 weeks after conception, the mouth and lips are forming inside the womb, and the fingers are already there to. But by, 6 to 10 weeks after conception a babys brainwaves can be detected. So basicly you are killing the child, an unborn baby who could of changed the world in either a small way, or a big way… a babythat could of been th next Einstein, or edison, or even the next president. And by Killing that baby, A dream ,a future, and a hope is Gone.
dani said,
November 30, 2006 at 10:56 am
hey it could be a terrible person too
Barb said,
November 30, 2006 at 12:22 pm
Tyer, I disagree. I believe that when a chld is born, it is at its purest state. It is then up to soemone in their life to shpae them to what they are in the future. Even great people w/horrible lives have to have had one person to get them up on their feet. With abortion, you are saving that child from dealing with unimaginable pain, and anguish, in many cases.
And guys, i know i keep bringing this up, but RAPE! Hello?
Remember Speak?What if Melinda became pregnant? AT 14? I think that abortion would be the best way out in that case.
dani said,
December 1, 2006 at 9:42 am
i have actually thought it over and if i get raped and get pregnate im gonna go on with the pregnancy. i would give the baby to an adoption home but stilll keep in tact with the kid
Barb said,
December 1, 2006 at 12:24 pm
hopefully you wont get raped…I disagree if i was id probably feel better having an abortion than having to give my child up…that would be way too hard.
Tyler K said,
December 1, 2006 at 12:28 pm
Not neccisarilly barb, because when a child grows to be like 20 it makes it’s own desicions, not the mom, or dad. So in a way, your wrong.Burnnn.OOOooooooOoo.
york8 said,
December 1, 2006 at 1:04 pm
Tyler thats a useless and spammy comments. Anymore like it and I’ll have to delete them.
~Marlowe
Barb said,
December 1, 2006 at 2:30 pm
Burn? Tyler, c’mon, no need for immature comments.
Even if people make their own decisions in their 20s, their childhood obviously effects them in some way. When people deal with hardships, they usually have to toughen up to survive.
Say this said person had to do “unorthodox” or illigal things just to get food. Well, they probabaly will learn not to think twice of unlawful things. If people aren’t taught to be good at some point, than chances are they will do illigal things.
Caitlin said,
December 1, 2006 at 2:40 pm
I would like to remind people that even if they would never personally have an abortion (this applies the guys, too) that doesn’t mean that we should make a law preventing everyone else in the country from making their own decision, if neccesary on this very personal choice that could affect them for the rest of their lives.
luke b said,
December 6, 2006 at 9:52 am
I agree with you caitlin I think women shoild have and choice.
Aaron said,
December 9, 2006 at 6:23 pm
“And then she heads for the clinic and
she gets some static walking through the door
They call her a killer, and they call her a sinner
and they call her a whore
God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes
Cause then you really might know what it’s like to have to choose” - EVERLAST - WHAT ITS LIKE
If you actually think really hard about it if you got pregnant by mistake or you got a girl pregnant by mistake and you really couldn’t or you didn’t want a kid you would want to get an abortion. Just put yourself in other people’s shoes.
Emma said,
December 13, 2006 at 10:00 am
Good qoeting there Aaron.
It’s true that women should have a choice. weather your for it or against it, when it’s YOUR baby you can do what you like.
york8 said,
December 13, 2006 at 10:02 am
…execpt for murder, molestation or other despicable acts.
~Marlowe
york8 said,
December 14, 2006 at 10:22 am
Good, appropriate song quote Aaron. It brings up good points and states the pro-choices views eliquently.
-Caitlin
dani said,
December 18, 2006 at 12:51 pm
ok well emma yes it is the womans kid but thst sounds kinda weird
‘its your kid you can do what do want with it’
hahaha
Emma said,
December 18, 2006 at 2:50 pm
haha yeah… I mean every human being has the right to be protected but if you think about it, most situations they would be born into if they were not killed before birth, probably would be no better than death, so that’s the main reason most people would WANT an abortion.
I mean it’s not like “OOH LET’S KILL IT EHHEHEHEHEH!”
Tyler K said,
May 10, 2007 at 11:10 am
I dont weely understand u lemma… could u explain more?
dani said,
May 10, 2007 at 1:34 pm
really is what you mean
ok there are some good and bad things about abortion
1: you wont have to bring an innocent child into this overpopulated hell.
but one bad thing is that you have to live with knowing you made that desision the rest of your life.
but then agian it is your desion that you made with someing you created
egh that sounds kinda bad.
Dalea Malual & Rukia Abbas said,
June 9, 2007 at 1:21 pm
this is so fucking stupid I swear to god! York 8 sucks, they’re dumb to do this. this is me Dalea Malual, yeah i go to king middle school. im in york 6 yeah i tell the truth. but its not only me here theres also Rukia Abbas shes in windsor 7 yeah but nobody can do anything about it right? thats what i thought bitches and niggas!
FUCK YORK 8
Myles Hebert said,
December 20, 2007 at 8:18 pm
now was that really necessary? what the crap is your problem?